Re: SF Invitational RLTCC Games

[Toad]

would also hope that as long as everything else is getting tuned, that dandy would tune the beemer just a bit

I think the 5 speed is the tuned version. A little more acceleration from less weight, also a little less "roadholding," also from less weight. I hate to ask him to change anything in the handling department, it's like no other in this class and addictively fun to drive even if really hard to be consistant with. Variety in the car characteristics suited to driver preferences, that's kind of what we want rather than just performance edges like top speed or 40-100mph acceleration etc.

If there are to be no changes to some of the others then maybe a little torque or Horsepower increase to help holding off the Merc and Mazda which blow past with impunity on long straights; otherwise I'm happy to stick with it as it is. It's a pretty good fit with Vaux, Seat, Volvo, and I am having a blast racing it against you all.

[DonaemouS]

BMW
I see amped made a short request. I think Dandy loves the challenge and loves working hard at driving and he builds his cars with that in mind. In actuality, I would venture it's gotta be that hard on a real track with a real car going at these speeds. I'm sure when he gets a win, it's more rewarding than a noob taking it with the Alfa. So sorry amped, I think it's fine not to change it. Just more merit for Dandy Toad and you if you dare once more!

There are weeks we talking about "slowering" 190 here and there. Well, I have a request to DANDY too. Pls good DANDY. Make this car faster. In TCC competition is one of the fastest car within the Audi, if I'm not wrong. Well, she can barely compete with Volvo/Vauxhaull. This car need to be faster and get better traction.

MazdaI dont know what is wrong with this car. I see a lot of good drivers winning with it. I personnaly cant drive the thing. I know Tomte has very specific thoughts about it, that the car was crippled to get the ringer out of it. I hope whatever Ren or tomte does to it does not make it such again. It sure seems faulty at the starting line!
I hope they get a paint job more than anything

Unfortunately, who made this car quit. Mazda should be considered as a referrer point too. This car is good, she just need to be fixed at start. Its impossible her engine completely stall.

[leoantix]

EDIT: raised CoG to 50 cm from 35 cm. Doesn't curtail the speed but it makes for a less stable more twitchy ride, looser tail and more tyre smoke. Perhaps more is needed. Try it out: Saturn CoG test

just had a whack at her ... still feels too stable. i like the feel of the new cog, yet imho still too easy

[slowDan]

i like the feel of the new cog, yet imho still too easy

Completley forgot about the test version of the saturn! Just been blasting Tomte's test rigs around Thruxton and all of the Variations of Merc and Seat are great fun to drive.

The Saturn just feels a bit dull in comparison. I think top gear is one ratio too high, almost impossible to get into it (a slipstream would help but still). I'm not sure what it is lacking really, further investigation needed!

[djpimley]

just had a whack at her ... still feels too stable. i like the feel of the new cog, yet imho still too easy

This is interesting. I just discovered "suspensionType 7" in the Saturn's car file. Maybe I'm fooling myself, but I've been playing with this and it certainly feels like that supposedly redundant option is making a difference to high-speed stability.

Can you guys try this:
Get up to top speed on a track like Dantona or Brooklands and then on a straight section shake the Saturn's tail hard - try to get a nasty high speed fishtail going. Now quit, open my test car file and comment out that line (";suspensionType 7"). Try the fishtail manoeuvre again. Am I right?

EDIT: Hm, not so sure myself now...

[leoantix]

Hm, not so sure myself now...

i can't seem to tell if there's a difference ... she seems to be the same to me

[DANDY]

Hm, not so sure myself now...

There was a time I was certain wheels.tilt did more than make a car look badass.

[djpimley]

Yeah, you're right. I need some kind of robot driver so I can test this stuff objectively.

[leoantix]

Yeah, you're right. I need some kind of robot driver so I can test this stuff objectively.

pastrl or naw would do just fine

Well, the Seat and the 190 will be updated shortly, probably tomorrow or Tuesday.

loving both betas ... i think its time to put these babies into production

[Tomte]

I'll give you guys a bit more time. Lat time I put some betas out for testing they tourned out to be too quick.

It looks as if the Seat will stay it is in the Beta, but the 190 will get some speed back. Something between v1.1 and v1.2b. It just doesn't have any advantage anymore, only drawbacks.

Tell me if you think this is a bad idea.

[See Flat]

I'm getting a really good feeling about an upcoming RLTCC Games event.
We did a lot of testing with 190, Seat, AND Tomte recipe for Mazda. So much fun with close races and different and unexpected outcomes. I like the way the Mazda is not killing everyone in the long straights although still remaining a very competitive car for the good drivers. Pastrl still won most of his races but not with a 30 sec lead. Same for OMD who also uses the car all the time. They also both state they do not feel the car is not as good and had fun with it. Cant wait to have Don's, leos, Dandy's etc... opinions.

Tomte was saying he was enjoying his 190 more and Alphonse says he cant really see the difference in the SEAT.

and this evening.. the cherry on the sunday.......Imola .95.... WOW. This is one heck of a track. To quote OMD, the landscape seems to go on forever into the horizon and it is the most open track in Redline as far as visibility.
I find the new landscape, buildings and tress certainly help with perspective and make the track actually easier to drive.

Thank guys for all the work you put into redline plugs. It is appreciated.

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[Tomte]

If Alphonse cannot really see a difference, I still might need to reign in the car a bit more. I won't touch the handling, but lowering the top speed a tad and maybe the acceleration above 200 kph.
I know that Alphonse is extremely happy with the Seat and I don't want to take this away form him.

[Tomte]

This is getting confusing with two webboards talking about the same stuff.

Please check here for a 5 speed version of the Mazda RX-8.
It doesn't have the start lag anymore, but also loses most of the speed advantage it had.
Here's also the Seat Leon v1.2 beta 2 which sports more drag and and thus a lower high speed than before.

Lemme know.

[See Flat]

Dandy was hoping for a time frame that RLTCC games might occur. I am saddened to say that I've just been given more dates in my work load and it is now looking as if I might have started to talk about RLTCC Games too early. I did want to get a pulse to see if this event still had some interest and I the few that answered, publicly and privately, certainly were very enthusiastic.

It looks like I might not be able to do this anytime soon. I know how much time I invested last time, and know this time wont be less work so I think i will call an immediate undetermined postponement. Looks like it will not be before next year sometime.

Thank you very much to all developers who jumped in and started talking about cars, and making the TCC class what it has become. I think that the new models will now be tested by all and some people will change camps only to make the next event even more fun.

Thank you for your understanding.

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[leoantix]

Lemme know.

mazda rx-8 jtcc tomte >>>>>>> X <<<<<<< mazda rx-8 jtcc t4.44

X marks the right spot ... a happy medium

ps. the seat is alf's ... i leave her to him

Looks like it will not be before next year sometime.

understood yet disappointed ... stupid real life

[DonaemouS]

nuuu... real life something is really boring. By the way. Actually we are involved in the TTT Pastrl's tourney and its hard, at least for me, getting focused in 2 tourneys.

It's good if tournaments give a pause to players, just to get relaxed and giving to all of us the time to practicing in the next one.

It's not a bad thing if there are no tournaments for two or three months. This waiting time fuel the anticipation for the incoming tournament.

[See Flat]

Should not be too much backlash since I've only talked about this here. Love this place.

Don,
I am not really aware of a time frame for the TTT. I just see them going on, and am doing my little bit to post my measly times but is it stated ANYWHERE how many there will be and for how long? I never meant for any event to overlap as that can only dilute participation as people choose which they prefer to participate in.

SF

[slowDan]

I am not really aware of a time frame for the TTT.

The rankings page has space for six scores and we are on the third. So not too long to go.

[See Flat]

Why thank you Dan. If I take calculated guess.. we would be in the middle of november somewhere by then.

[Kenners]

You know, I really need to spend some time in the LoL forums.. Then, when I post on ASW RL forums, maybe I won't post..

So.. Is Watkins ready for you when this happens? (that is, finished enough..)

Here's hoping. And I'll be trying to get in on this one.

Kenners

[leoantix]

You know, I really need to spend some time in the LoL forums.. Then, when I post on ASW RL forums, maybe I won't post..

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