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Post  OMD Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:39 pm

You gotta get about halfway into it...


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Post  See Flat Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:30 pm

I wonder if that hurts?
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Post  leoantix Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:32 pm

why only one question is ... WHY Question
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Post  Battlewagon Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:37 pm

Maybe the Japanese are even more bored than the proliferation of great video games would indicate.....

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Post  NoNameBrand Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:09 pm

See Flat wrote:I wonder if that hurts?

Well, it's his muscles making the music, not the music/external stimulus making his muscles twitch. Electrodes are just attached onto the skin, not stuck into it.

Neat.

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Post  Pax-raider Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:51 pm

clever idea, but I gotta say I don't believe it. The twitching doesn't match the music once it gets more complex...

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Post  See Flat Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:57 pm

NoNameBrand wrote:Well, it's his muscles making the music, not the music/external stimulus making his muscles twitch. Electrodes are just attached onto the skin, not stuck into it.
Pax-raider wrote:clever idea, but I gotta say I don't believe it. The twitching doesn't match the music once it gets more complex...

I understand the electrodes are just attached to the skin. I just dont know how much current it takes on the outside of the skin to get muscles to move. And I was mostly thinking of the amount being applied repeatedly for minutes.

As for the music, It would be much easier for whatever source is supplying the current to control the pitch of the oscillator as well and certainly does not have to be as complex as the muscles creating the tones. I would think anyway. Smile

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Post  Cowgirl Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:01 pm

i think ya'll are making this out to be more than it is. looks to me like a guy who taped some funky looking wires to his face, got on his webcam, played some silly music and practiced twitching at the right time and in the right place to look like the wires were doing something. it's entertaining tho Very Happy
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Post  See Flat Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:04 pm

Cowgirl wrote:practiced twitching at the right time and in the right place to look like the wires were doing something. it's entertaining tho Very Happy

Maybe in Utah hehehe
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Post  OMD Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:54 pm

Uh, guys, Bruce Lee used this same idea to get workouts while doing other things. It is indeed the electrodes making his muscles twitch. He simply figured out a way to have MIDI notes trigger a device that sends electric impulses. They are simply taped to the skin at certain areas. Notice how he was fighting to keep relaxed and started smiling about halfway through. I don't think there's anyone on earth could twitch their face like that at will. If you watch with this in mind the twitching does indeed match the rhythms, especially when you identify which sounds cause the different areas to twitch. With MIDI notes you also have 127 different velocity levels, so it wouldn't be difficult to translate that into varying levels of impulse intensity either. For someone who figured it out, of course.


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Post  See Flat Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:58 pm

OMD wrote:Uh, guys,

That should have read.. Uh cute girl... cause she's the only one who had that idea... Utah style! hehe
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Post  OMD Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:02 pm

No, NoNameBrand started the idea. Pay attention. rabbit

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Post  See Flat Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:33 pm

OMD wrote:Pay attention. rabbit
indeed....
NNB clearly stated the electrodes were causing the stimuli, but on the other hand implied the muscles were creating the tones. That part seems unlikely if not impossible. It's clear that anything that creates an electrical signal can change the pitch of an oscillator.
CG is the only one that implied the guy was a twicthing super man! Smile and that the wires had no use but were a prop to make us believe something. lol!
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Post  Cowgirl Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:39 pm

/me leans back in office chair at work... *sigh* look what i started Smile lol!
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Post  OMD Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:26 pm

NoNameBrand wrote:
See Flat wrote:I wonder if that hurts?

Well, it's his muscles making the music, not the music/external stimulus making his muscles twitch. Electrodes are just attached onto the skin, not stuck into it.

Neat.

Do they teach reading comprehension a little differently up there in Canada? Razz

He is saying that there is no stimulus being provided by the *wires*, but that the *muscles* are the triggers. Stimulus means causing something to take action. CG only took the idea a little further saying he is just following the music with face twitches, that there was no interaction at all. Basically everyone seems to have a problem believing that electrical impulse can cause muscles to twitch. I don't know why this is a problem, it's a very old trick. If you know anything about music technology, you could also see how translating note triggers to electrical impulses of varying degrees is not difficult to imagine at all.

And what's all this about changing the pitch of an oscillator? This guy is using multiple tones, multiple notes, multiple instruments. Technology has progressed way beyond triggering a single oscillator.

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Post  See Flat Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:41 pm

NoNameBrand wrote:
See Flat wrote:I wonder if that hurts?
Well, it's his muscles making the music, not the music/external stimulus making his muscles twitch. Electrodes are just attached onto the skin, not stuck into it.
Neat.
Do they teach reading comprehension a little differently up there in Canada? Razz
I just remember the parts I want to. clown

And what's all this about changing the pitch of an oscillator? This guy is using multiple tones, multiple notes, multiple instruments. Technology has progressed way beyond triggering a single oscillator.

I had to listen to it again.... I never got to the part of the clip that introduced the noise... and yes multiple oscillators were capable 40 years ago. It's still pretty basic. I dont know if I would call it multiple instruments and certainly not hearing anything here that benefits from current technology. He's me with an electrode up my anus affraid
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Post  NoNameBrand Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:19 am

I personally would prefer that electrodes send the electrical signal from the muscle movements to the music-making machine, rather than the other way around, but I don't like shocks. So I projected in my interpretation.

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